Ep 103: Fred Dust | Is change the purpose of conversation?

What is the point of conversation?

Well, Fred Dust believes it’s change.

Fred is the author of the book Making Conversation, and in this, well, conversation, Fred shares why creating change is an elemental component of the most valuable and creative method we have of communicating with each other.

And here’s the trickiest part: the best, most productive, most creative conversations that actually solve problems often require the parties involved to be individually open to change while at the same time acknowledging that they’re not trying to change anyone else in that moment.

It’s nuanced and perhaps a bit confusing, but if you’re like me, once you hear Fred explain it, you’ll come away more optimistic about the possibilities.

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